tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3003698046664815822.post4667636825052768989..comments2023-10-07T17:06:09.593+01:00Comments on maeib's Beer Blog: Innis & Gunn - Have I Given Them A Rum Deal?Mark Edwardshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05862251527980938136noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3003698046664815822.post-5084292292902283192008-08-14T17:05:00.000+01:002008-08-14T17:05:00.000+01:00I found the beer to be quite bland and dull. It ha...I found the beer to be quite bland and dull. It has no real bitterness to balance out the oak imparted flavours. Anyhow you can read my ramblings <A HREF="http://thebeerdiary.blogspot.com/2008/08/innis-gunn.html" REL="nofollow"> here (The Beer Diary). </A>Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11979252489432311435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3003698046664815822.post-78394740068071492182007-11-06T22:02:00.000+00:002007-11-06T22:02:00.000+00:00Zythophile :I raised this on your blog when you di...Zythophile :<BR/><BR/>I raised this on your blog when you discused the barrel aging beer writers outing , but why is the 1968 batch of Thomas Hardys Ale aged in Sherry casks not a case of a brewer in the UK deliberatly setting out to aguire spirit cask character?Kieran Haslett-Moorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04562970144894398803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3003698046664815822.post-82325196689791815212007-11-05T15:52:00.000+00:002007-11-05T15:52:00.000+00:00Isn't using barrels which previously held spirits ...Isn't using barrels which previously held spirits somewhat illegal in the UK? There was some discussion of it a few months back and someone mentioned the old illegal and ignominious technique called grogging.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3003698046664815822.post-84435170956484386862007-11-05T15:42:00.000+00:002007-11-05T15:42:00.000+00:00I think I&G can be forgiven for being coy about th...I think I&G can be forgiven for being coy about the source of their beer - first, because it means they can switch supplier whenever they want, without any repercussions, second because it may well be the brewer of the beer doesn't want anyone to know it contract-brews for I&G, and third because it's brewed to tgheir recipe, specifically to react as well as possbile with the oak casks it's then stoerd in, so why should they give credit to anyone else?<BR/><BR/>As far as "inventing" oak-aged beer goes, while storing ales in oak is, of course, 1,500 or 2,000 years old, nobody before I&G in the UK set out to deliberately acquire oak or spirit character in the beer from the barrel - about the only "barrel character" British brewers ever wanted was a Brett note in the secondary fermentation. So yes, I think it's fair for them to claim they were the first to do this, in the UK, at least. <BR/><BR/>Even in the States I don't think the idea of barrel-ageing is much older than seven or eight years, at the most, and my impression (I may be wrong) is that (1) they were after bourbon notes rather than oak notes, at least to begin with, and (2) this was encouraged by the large number of ex-bourbon casks always available, because of the rule that bourbon distilelrs can only use new casks for ageing bourbon in.<BR/><BR/>Oh, and yes, the rum cask beer is very nice - but under HMR&C regulations against "grogging", surely illegal?Zythophilehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07169961035352165436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3003698046664815822.post-59987338536030441622007-11-05T13:22:00.000+00:002007-11-05T13:22:00.000+00:00Stonch, I was referring more to the art of using b...Stonch, I was referring more to the art of using barrels previously used for spirits so that the flavours would impart into the beer. I'm a bit ignorant of there being any older British beers doing that. Mind you, if you read I&G's website you'd think they invented the process.<BR/><BR/>Kieran,<BR/><BR/>I really didn't mean to wind anyone up on Beer Pages hence why I used the "winking" smiley. Still Zak and I have made friends. The Tsingtao thread is crazy and I am leaving it well alone. 99 replies is proably a record for that forum though, and it may be worth bringing it to an even 100.Mark Edwardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05862251527980938136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3003698046664815822.post-67558984910916410582007-11-05T11:18:00.000+00:002007-11-05T11:18:00.000+00:00of course oak aged beers is not a new thing across...<I>of course oak aged beers is not a new thing across the Atlantic Ocean, but it is pretty rare in the UK.</I><BR/><BR/>I find that a slightly odd statement, Mark. British brewers have been barrel aging since Santa was in knee pants, and some never stopped doing so. Your statement could be seen to imply that the whole thing is a US "innovation" that our brewers are just catching on to, and copying. I think not. The inspiration for BrewDog and the like need not come from across the Atlantic - they'll have found plenty of that much closer to home.Stonchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15927490011165896353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3003698046664815822.post-66653959429745913142007-11-05T05:43:00.000+00:002007-11-05T05:43:00.000+00:00There is certainly an angry vibe going down at bee...There is certainly an angry vibe going down at beer-pages at the moment, I hope the Tsingtao thread dies this time.Kieran Haslett-Moorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04562970144894398803noreply@blogger.com